The Republican Party and the Latest Conservative-Libertarian Squabbles

The fact that Ron Paul won the straw poll at the 2010 CPAC (Conservative Political Action Conference) has raised the issue of whether or not libertarians will be welcomed in the post-Obama GOP. Although Paul is unlikely to become the Republican nominee for President in 2012, he’s one of the few members of the GOP to inspire much enthusiasm amongst America’s young voters, and without young voters, the GOP will truly become the Grand Old(timer’s) Party. Paul’s victory at CPAC elicited boos from those who disagree with his policy stances, particularly in the area of foreign policy, as well as his stance on Homeland Security and the Patriot Act, and talk show host Rush Limbaugh complained that because of Paul’s victory, CPAC wasn’t conservative anymore.

Frank Gaffney, in a blog entitled “GOP’s Job #1?” (March 9, 2010 ) has argued that “national security must be Job #1” for the GOP, and he bemoans the fact that several recent conservative documents (e.g., the Conservative Action Project’s Mount Vernon Statement and the Tea Party-inspired Contract from America) have relegated it to the back burner of priorities. Regarding the former, Gaffney wrote: ‘the official agenda was largely bereft of any discussion of the threats to our nation, constitution and society arising from today’s totalitarian ideology – what authoritative Islam calls “Shariah.”’ While I certainly agree with Gaffney that the threat of militant Islamism is perhaps the greatest international threat to America (and to Western Civilization), Gaffney is perhaps ignoring the public’s 15 minute attention span, and the fact that fiscal concerns have become predominant for a very good reason: America is in the midst of the greatest financial collapse since the Great Depression and millions of Americans are still currently jobless.

Gaffney then goes on to blame this recent conservative neglect of national security concerns on libertarian incursions into the GOP, particularly in the person of one Grover Norquist. I don’t know much about Mr. Norquist, being more of a philosopher-historian by discipline, than a political operative. Apparently, in Gaffney’s opinion, Norquist is an anti-tax activist, who has become “increasingly associated with policies and initiatives that are strikingly at odds with the national security convictions and practices” of conservatives. I certainly don’t agree with many of the positions Gaffney has ascribed to Norquist: For example, open borders, ‘efforts to promote in the name of GOP “inclusion” individuals and organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood,’ or alliances “with such prominent Leftists as Katrina vanden Heuvel, publisher of the Nation magazine.” On the other hand, I do believe that one can be critical of the War on Terror, as in the case of conservatives like Diana West, while at the same time opposing the threat of Islamic jihad and the imposition of Sharia sensibilities in the West. Many of the greatest advocates of the War on Terror, such as George W. Bush himself, have been remiss in anticipating the real threat of Sharia at home, in America and in Europe. And I would further add that the only reason that Sharia can pose such a threat in the West is due to the fact that the fifth column of Left wing Political Correctness has made the West vulnerable, to a suicidal degree, to that very threat.

In the far right publication (Pat Buchanan was one of the founders), The American Conservative, an article entitled Libertarianism Is Real Conservatism (author unknown) appeared on March 9th, 2010, arguing that at its inception in 1945 the modern conservative movement began with a libertarian revolt against the post-War/New Deal consensus. This is well-documented in perhaps the most authoritative history of the movement, George Nash’s The Conservative Intellectual Movement in America. Heritage Foundation (a conservative think tank with strong Neocon influences) President Edwin J. Feulner, Jr. has said, “Nash’s work is one of the very few books that must be read for a full understanding of the conservative movement in America.” Yet Austrian economists F.A. Hayek and Ludwig von Mises, both political libertarians, had a profound impact on the early movement, including even upon traditional conservatives such as Russell Kirk and William F. Buckley. (Although Kirk extolled the virtues of Austrian economics, he eventually sparred with libertarians such as Frank S. Meyer and Murray Rothbard.) Following Nash, the article maintained: ‘Few actually used the word “conservatism” in 1945, a term that began to gain popularity when Russell Kirk’s book “The Conservative Mind” was published in 1953 and with the founding of William F. Buckley’s National Review in 1955.’ The article also cites the influence of libertarian Albert Jay Nock, and this writer would add that the influence of classical liberals such as Garet Garrett and John T. Flynn who opposed the New Deal, as well as proto-libertarian New Deal opponents such as H.L. Mencken and Frank Chodorov, were also prevalent amongst the Old Right precursors of the conservative movement. None other than conservative icon Ronald Reagan is reported to have said, “I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.”

So why the rejection of libertarianism by spokesmen for the contemporary conservative movement? As the article observed:

Dismissing libertarianism as not real conservatism is like dismissing filet mignon as not real steak. . . . . Indeed, advocating for “limited government” without employing some degree of libertarianism would be logistically impossible.

It certainly seems to be a factor in the Republican and some conservative criticism of libertarianism that many Big Government Republicans are not really committed to the conservative and libertarian principles of liberty and limited government. They have no intention of rolling back any New Deal or Great Society programs, and the big spending Republican Congresses of the Bush years give adequate support for that contention.

On the other hand, the American Conservative article posits that the reason for the Republican and conservative rejection of libertarianism (and one could add, traditional or Paleo-Conservatism), is the ascendency of the Neo-Conservatives, defined as “ex-Socialists who migrated Right as a reaction to the 1960’s counterculture, and who today are devoted to promoting the maintenance and expansion of America’s global empire.” To quote Nash, Neo-conservatives ascribe to a “neo-Wilsonian ideology of global democratic capitalism.” The above article continued:

[N]eoconservatives consider perpetual war a positive good precisely because they believe it is America’s mission to export democracy around the world. . . .

Questioning the cost or wisdom of waging perpetual war is considered unconscionable or even “unpatriotic” to neoconservatives, which is why they are so dismissive of libertarians who insist on questioning foreign policy.

I find myself somewhere in the middle of this squabble on the right. For one thing, it should not be the role of America’s foreign policy to export democracy around the world: Democracy doesn’t work unless it comes from the will of the people themselves; it cannot be imposed from without, and America cannot afford to continue being the policeman of the world. One of the factors in the collapse of both the British and Roman empires was the fact that they became overextended militarily. On the other hand, it seems to this writer that many libertarians have minimized the threat posed by militant Islamism to the West and to Western institutions, and concomitantly they seem to minimize the threat posed by the Palestinians and Arabs to Israeli sovereignty and survival. I do envision it to be an important aspect of America’s foreign policy role to be that of defender of Western Civilization and liberties, and Israel is definitely an ally and member of the West. However, that stated, isn’t it about time that the Europeans began paying for their own defense, and stopped riding on America’s coat tails, all the while criticizing her whenever convenient? That said, there is much room for debate and disagreement as to when it is appropriate for the United States to become involved in international disagreements or to intervene militarily, in its defense of the West. Washington was correct to warn his successors of “entangling alliances,” and as Steven Hayward, author of The Age of Reagan has observed, Reagan was very circumspect about involving the United States in military engagements abroad. For the Republican Party to ascend from its status as a minority party to the majority, it would behoove them to subordinate these disagreements to the greater good of uniting conservatives and libertarians with the goal of defeating and rolling back the socialistic policies and programs of the Obama administration and Democratic Congress. To my way of thinking, this is the GOP’s Job #1.

The grassroots Tea Party movement has largely arisen as a response and reaction to the polices of excessive spending and indebtedness pursued by the Obama administration, and as a result, the Republican Party has been rejuvenated with off season election victories in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts. The financial meltdown of 2008 has led to a renewed focus on America’s fiscal profligacy, and budget deficits and the National Debt have again become the focus of political debate, much as they had been in the Congressional Elections of 1994 that brought the Republicans to power in Congress. These factors have lead to a renewal of libertarian concerns, both economic and political, on the right. In a previous post at GM’s Place, Conservative Populism: An Alternative to Obama’s Road to Serfdom (June 10, 2009), I advocated a return to conservative populism, in the form of an alliance between conservatives, libertarians, Reagan Democrats, and the Religious Right, with the unified focus of defeating the Obama/Democratic hegemony in American politics. The Tea Party has substantially contributed to making this alliance a reality. In 1992, libertarian Murray Rothbard advocated a strategy of “right-wing populism” (“A Strategy for the Right” ). He was rather prescient in his view of what the left wing and “establishment” conservative response would be, which is equally applicable to their reaction to the Tea Party movement:

Whenever liberals have encountered hard-edged abolitionists who, for example, have wanted to repeal the New Deal or Fair Deal, they say “But that’s not genuine conservatism. That’s radicalism.” The genuine conservative, these liberals go on to say, doesn’t want to repeal or abolish anything. He is a kind and gentle soul who wants to conserve what left-liberals have accomplished.

The Tea Party movement has had plenty of detractors, not only in the Left wing media, but also amongst “respectable conservatives” such as David Brooks and Sam Tanenhaus, editor of the New York Review of Books and author of The Death of Conservatism. Brooks likens the Tea Party movement to the New Left of the 1960s, while in Tannenhaus’s view, a true conservative would conserve the progressive gains made by the left; only a radical would want to repeal them. I’ve argued at length against such a vision of conservatism previously at GM’s Place ( Critique of Sam Tanenhaus’s “Conservatism is Dead” ) in September 2009, so I won’t belabor the issue.

It is perhaps worth quoting again from Jonah Goldberg’s blog entitled “Reading Tea Party Leaves” (March 17, 2010 ), which suggested that the Tea Party Movement, “far from being a bunch of wild eyed radicals, really constitutes a ‘restoration movement.’”

Restoration and destruction are hardly synonymous terms or desires. And maybe that’s a better label: a political restoration movement, one that reflects our Constitution and the precepts of limited government.

Hopefully the grassroots populism of the Tea Party movement can help heal the rift between conservatives and libertarians so that the Republican Party and fellow travelers may gain a Congressional majority in 2010. If not, America may be in for further doses of Obamaite statism, which could cause irreparable damage to the Republic.

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9 Responses to “The Republican Party and the Latest Conservative-Libertarian Squabbles”

  1. af ticker says:

    As I posted on the end of the welfare state post the comments there will fit equally as well here as I believe they are very much related. So I have carried them over to this post .

    What could go occur in this scenerio is that the far right will revolt because they can’t get their way on their limited agenda. These are the same ones who are so infatuated with Palin and she is no where near ready for the office of POTUS. A bit more ready than Obama ]but certainly not ready either emotionally or knowledge wise. We need someone who is knowledgeable not another Bush who in all his steadfastness was unprepared for what he was handed. That is one way.

    The second is if the libertarians are allowed to take control they will lose the independents such as myself. I can not buy into their policy leanings when it comes to foreign policy. Isolationism has never worked take a look at pre-WW I history and then a segment of it which held over after WW I. Our military suffered as no other time in history and we were totally unprepared for WW II. The small amount that we were doing for Europe in the way of arms may have been our only salvation. At least it slowed FDR’s socialist agenda even though much of it had already passed. If WW2 had not interfered it is my opinion that we would be much like our European cousins, a socialist state to a large degree.

    The third is that the RINO’s will prevail and fill the Congress with more of their kind who have already failed on the subject of the Constitution. They are more interested in their own prevailing than the prevailing of the Constitution and Rule of Law.

    Should any of these scenarios occur the Dems will maintain power , perhaps not in as large of a majority as they do now but it will a disaster and the country can look for 4 more years of the progressive, socialist agenda being crammed down their throats.

  2. Mark Amagi says:

    It’s true any of those things could happen: the far right could revolt; the libertarians could take over, though not likely; or the Rino’s could prevail. I don’t have a crystal ball. I agree with you about Palin: although I don’t dislike her, she’s not yet up to the task mentally (or emotionally) and may never be. (Our standards have so declined that maybe the public will accept most anybody now.)

    As to the libertarians, I would think that as an independent they might be more to your liking, although I can see how foreign policy could definitely be a deal breaker. It’s good to keep in mind, however, that not all libertarians are extremists on foreign policy. There are Rothbardian libertarians on the extreme end, and then the more moderate Hayekians. (More on that in a later post.)

    As to the Rino’s, my hope is that the Tea Partiers won’t stand for the establishment GOP’s b.s. anymore. One can hope.

    Regarding FDR: It’s entirely possible that if it were not for America’s intervention in WWII, he would not have been re-elected. The Depression had gone down for another dip in, I think, 1938. Your point is a good one regarding the US military’s lack of preparedness for WWII. It can be a real dilemma in a republic: if you don’t have a strong defense, your easy pickings for a militaristic dictatorship, yet if you’ve got a strong military there’s always the temptation to use it, even when you don’t need to.

  3. af ticker says:

    I have not met many or actually any of the Hayekians in places where I have lived so my experiences have been with the kooks or as I refer to them cowards who depend on someone else to defend their right to be wrong.

    True that perhaps that FDR may not have been re-elected had it not been for WW2. Yes the dip did occur again and it was due to SPENDING, trying to spend our way out of a depression. Does that not sound familiar with the current administration claiming that spending is the only way to get out of a recession. It would appear that this administration learned nothing from the Roosevelt depression. They also failed to know or understand that in 1920 there was a recession much worse than the one we experienced beginning in 2006 when the Democrats won the majority in the Congress. In 1920 there were those who said we needed to spend but cooler heads prevailed and said NO, there is no need . Leave it to the natural market and it will resolve itself and so it did. No stimulus spending, no jobs bill, no seizure of automobile companies, no seizure of banks, no bailouts for Wall Street and Insurance companies. The natural order of things took care of all that without government interference and the same should have occurred from 2007 until now. The recession would have corrected itself by now or within the year. Yes, perhaps some there would have been some failures in the business world but the country would have been less in debt. But in 1920 the socialist didn’t prevail, today they did.

    I agree on the military situation for the most part. The question of using it when you don’t need to can be tricky since it is difficult to discern when that time may be. To not use it and then be in a more difficult position than if you had brings the problem of being perceived as weak and ineffective. Of course should you use it where it is not needed then you are perceived as a bully. To me I would rather use it and be hanged what the rest of the world thinks. Guess that comes from many years of service to this country when I gave no thought to such and just did my job as I swore I would do. Did I question some of the decisions of the CnC, you bet I did and I proceeded in a manner as not to do harm but still carry out the mission.

    Yep, one can hope that independents and conservatives will not put up with the GOP’s barnyard bovine excrement, especially that which is being blow about by the affirmative action appointed head of the GOP/ The man made a fool of himself tonight in an inteview with “Geraldo the befuddled” the one who knows a whole lot about nothing but claims to know it all. I wonder if he is still looking for Hoffa!
    Ok , it’s late and after watching the debacle tonight I am pissed off and tired as well. Good night or should I say good morning.

  4. Mark Amagi says:

    Perhaps it has to do with the difference between capital “L” Libertarian Party types, and small “l” libertarians or conservatives with a strong belief in Individual and economic liberty. I belong to the latter group.

    We’re totally on the same page when it comes to the Great Depression (probably turned into a depression by FDR’s wrongheaded policies), the recession of 1920, and the current economic collapse (made worse by Obama and friends).
    I appreciate your comments and many thanks for your service to our country.

  5. GM Roper says:

    I have loved reading the exchanges between you Mark and AF Ticker. I feel so lucky to know both of you.

  6. This was a really excellent post. It hits the nail on the head, and I appreciated a summary of the arguments with Mr. Amagi’s position at the end. I feel very similarly.

    • Mark Amagi says:

      Hi Rosita. Long time no hear. It’s always a pleasure to hear from you, and I’m anticipating your first post at GM’s Place.

  7. af ticker says:

    Mark, the small “l” libertarians are the types which reflect many of my feelings for indeed I strongly believe in individual and economic liberty. Glad you and I are on the same page, maybe not always the same paragraph or sentence but still the same page.

    I have enjoyed the civil exchange with you and look forward to many more.

  8. Mark Amagi says:

    Thanks af ticker.